by James Fleischmann
Thomas Sanlis is a freelancer and teacher who has bootstrapped over 20 products. Most are in the product graveyard, but two are currently live. One of them brought in $12K last year.
Let's take a peek at his finances!
The importance of money
Thomas wasn't taught how to handle money, so he had to teach himself. He credits r/vosfinances for much of what he now knows.
These days, while he's making good money, his income is unpredictable. As a freelancer with a changing project load, his income is in flux. He also teaches at an IT school a few days per month, but the number of days varies.
Then, there are the one-time payments. When he launched Uneed, he sold subscriptions to bring in recurring revenue. But, he was worried that if customers didn't get enough clicks (which is essentially what Uneed sells) in the first month, they would churn. So, he did something a little unusual.
He started charging one-time payments for a certain number of clicks. The idea behind this decision was that, if customers knew they'd have premium access until they got the number of clicks they were looking for, they'd be satisfied and keep coming back.
So far, it seems to be working.
The numbers
- Uneed revenue: $12K total in 2023.
- Freelancing: $1.5K-$4K per month.
- Teaching income: $2.8K-$3.5K per month.
- Personal accounts: $32K.

He works one or two days per week on Uneed and his other project, Gumaffiliates.
Investments and debt
Thomas is new to investing. A few months ago, he decided to put $1K into Apple stocks. He used a Plan d'Epargne en Actions (PEA), which is a French investment wrapper that he describes as a savings account that allows you to buy stocks.
Thomas also recently invested in real estate by buying a home. Other than his mortgage, he has no debt.
While he's just starting out with traditional investing, Thomas has invested heavily in cycling. He says it's the reason he's able to work so hard. A few hours on the bike gives him a whole day's motivation, as cycling is the only activity that allows him to completely clear his head.
He has three bikes: One was ~$200, and he uses that for commuting. The other two were ~$2K and ~$5K, for rough paths and races, respectively.
Advice for indie hackers
Here's what Thomas wants to impart on indie hackers more than anything else: Always try to have enough in your savings to last at least a year without any income!
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